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THE FOURTH PHASE PODCAST MISSION
In Basic Underwater Demolition SEAL (BUD/S) training, there are three brutal phases a candidate must complete to earn the trident and serve among the world’s most elite warriors. But when the uniform comes off—what comes next?
How do we carry that same level of discipline, purpose, and excellence into everyday life?
How do any of us—veterans or not—learn to live in a way that’s intentional, resilient, and truly elite?
Welcome to The Fourth Phase.
Hosted by 21-year retired Navy SEAL JJ Parma and his wife and cohost Kristel, The Fourth Phase Podcast is your reset point. It’s for those who feel the call to simplify, reconnect, and realign with what matters most.
This show brings things back to the basics: real food, real relationships, real purpose, and real joy. But it doesn’t shy away from the hard stuff. JJ and Kristel tackle life’s struggles and challenges in a raw, honest way—inviting listeners to face what’s real so they can move forward with clarity and strength.
Every week, they explore how to live well in today’s chaotic world—so you can improve your physical, mental, and emotional health, deepen your connection with self and others, grow in your career and finances, and experience true fulfillment and simplicity.
Through unfiltered SwimBuddy conversations and insight from best-in-class experts, The Fourth Phase offers powerful tools and truths for people ready to live on purpose.
This is what comes after survival—this is where we learn to truly live.
New episodes drop every Wednesday. Subscribe now and start living your Fourth Phase.
PHYSICAL HEALTH
MENTAL &
EMOTIONAL HEALTH
RELATIONSHIPS &
CONNECTION
CAREER & FINANCIAL
HEALTH
PERSONAL FULFILLMENT
& CONTRIBUTION
KEYNOTE SPEAKER
Led by John J Parma (JJ), a retired Naval Special Warfare SEAL officer with 21 years of battlefield leadership.
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Empowering organizations to become "Elite" by teaching the characteristics that forge Elite Teams along with the best practices of Stress Leadership - resulting in success and fulfillment in both one's personal and professional life.